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olicon

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I agree with some of what you said and gave more insight then any other Admin or Owner has as of right now. And If what you said about coming to the forums. With the Admins/Mods/Owners calling someone Autistic will stop people like myself coming back to the forums. Like ive said many times i was just asking a question the only Staff that has petty much helped and answered has been a Trial Mod and now 2 Helpers. what said wasnt meant to be an argument and thats for me being offended by word Nigga i dunno where thats coming from. I was just stating a point If something so small like whalcum can be mutable words like Nigga should be. It doesnt mean im offended by it.

Yes, I don't believe I'm arguing but I'm rather defending myself because I was the one who warned you.

Again, the reason we prohibit the use of the word "whalecum" isn't because it's offensive, it's because of the impression it leaves on the server.

Likewise, the word nigga isn't prohibited because it can be used in non-offensive context; it's when it is that we mute people. We don't always catch everybody's derogatory remarks - this is what the player reporting sub-forum is for.

The mod and owner that replied to this didn't do anything wrong; I think you being upset over their statements is another example of the insensitivity you don't seem to be used to from this community.


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I wasn't really referring to you being triggered over bigotry, that was more aimed towards Fervent.
 
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Fervent

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@oli6160 I understand that completely and I'm not offended nor butthurt about these words being used. I was just trying to understand the logic and reasoning behind why "whalecum" wasn't allowed, which is now answered and understood. The owner could have easily left it as that it makes the server looks bad, then I would have left it as that. But he took a step extra and called people "autistic" for it? Which was uncalled for and honestly, unprofessional coming from someone with that status. That alone makes the server look bad more than the word 'whalecum'.

So I hope you understand why it's hard to accept "makes the server look bad" as an answered when a few of the staff are approaching things unprofessionally and almost rudely. Sure, they might not did anything wrong but they could approach it better especially how much they want to make the server look good, you know?

I really hope you can understand that from my perspective as I understood where you're coming from now. Thanks again for the reply, the question was answered and I understand a little better now how the server is run.
 

NerkVerse

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Yes, I don't believe I'm arguing but I'm rather defending myself because I was the one who warned you.

Again, the reason we prohibit the use of the word "whalecum" isn't because it's offensive, it's because of the impression it leaves on the server.

Likewise, the word nigga isn't prohibited because it can be used in non-offensive context; it's when it is that we mute people. We don't always catch everybody's derogatory remarks - this is what the player reporting sub-forum is for.

The mod and owner that replied to this didn't do anything wrong; I think you being upset over their statements is another example of the insensitivity you don't seem to be used to from this community.
You had nothing to defend to begin with. You was just following what you believed to be right.
And again its not me being upset over what was said Like the owner said its the Internet.
But if the server asks you to Donate to a member of staff AFTER buying VIP and upwards a little bit of professionalism wouldnt hurt.
 

olicon

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But he took a step extra and called people "autistic" for it?

I don't feel I really need to explain why he used "autistic" as an adjective; this just goes hand in hand with the way the community is.

But if the server asks you to Donate to a member of staff AFTER buying VIP and upwards a little bit of professionalism wouldnt hurt.
Which was uncalled for and honestly, unprofessional coming from someone with that status.

Professionalism isn't displayed in the way a person talks with status, because Dakotaa doesn't threaten to punish you if you don't agree with his opinions. He's just talking like he was any other person on the forums; in a general discussion where his professionalism doesn't have to be displayed - even though I believe it is since he explained why the server is ran this way very clearly.

You throw insults at his server but when he replies you criticize him solely based on status?

Either way, this thread has entirely de-railed and the original statement has been answered. I think we can leave it at that (like @NerkVerse said.)
 

NerkVerse

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I don't feel I really need to explain why he used "autistic" as an adjective; this just goes hand in hand with the way the community is.




Professionalism isn't displayed in the way a person talks with status, because Dakotaa doesn't threaten to punish you if you don't agree with his opinions. He's just talking like he was any other person on the forums; in a general discussion where his professionalism doesn't have to be displayed - even though I believe it is since he explained why the server is ran this way very clearly.

You throw insults at his server but when he replies you criticize him solely based on status?

Either way, this thread has entirely de-railed and the original statement has been answered. I think we can leave it at that (like @NerkVerse said.)
I dont think any insults was aimed at the server i believe all i said is that the server was bad for that reason but apart from that i love the server. I have nothing bad to say about it. And for the whole professional thing If you are an owner for ANYTHING not just a server you would wanna give your self and a server a good name. Like you said tho maybe its just the way how he speaks on here im sure by voice its diff as things can be taken differently when typed.
 

Fervent

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Not once have I insulted the server, so please don't say things that are not true and out of context.

I only mention his status because a few others were throwing that status around, so I thought it would be okay to mention it. You can disagree and defend all you want, at the end of the day things could have been approach better from both sides I believe.

I wasn't going to reply but then you said I was insulting the server, when I have mentioned many times that I enjoy the server. I only disagree with how staff approach users' concerns. Which are two different things. Anyways, let's just leave it at that.
 

Dakotaa

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I'm going to close this thread as it has obviously gone far from what is started as.

If you want a good explanation, please refer to Oli's first reply.

And, for the record, I was not calling any specific person autistic. I was using the word as an adjective, I did not mean offense to any with autism and apologize if you took it this way, I used it as a way to describe the behaviour of these people.
 

Spalw

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Although this issue is settled, I would briefly like to add my input to this thread as there have been sentiments of players and helpers which are misguided and opinions that are baseless.

We are very loose with our chat in some ways and very strict in others - you all may have noticed. This is for many reasons. "Racism, sexism" ect, we're very relaxed about - it's very rare that these things are genuine and are almost always simply jokes. If MCD harboured a sub-culture of Nazis who held weekly meetings discussing how to cleanse the population of the server, maybe then - and only then would we consider re-evauluating our rules.

As for things such as "whalecum" and general people being a nuisance in chat - this is almost entirely about player rentention. People who get offended by "nigger faggot" will leave the server at some point, we can't stop that. But we can prevent new players joining and seeing an irritating barrage of spam. Keeping players past the first 10 minutes is the most difficult part - it can usually take around 30 minutes to progress through a couple of ranks and have a basic setup, it's getting players to this point that is important.

There's a more indept explanation as to specifically why "whalecum" and similar is regulated. As for the insults and opinions on other staff members, I would like to remind everyone that we're always working to improve the server - please feel free to make any and all suggestions that you feel would improve your experience of MCD, and if you don't wish to have a big discussion about it, private message myself or Dakotaa.

If you have any further issues please feel free to message me any time.
 
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