Accepted Ban Appeal - BoarsSin

Member Name BoarsSin

Ban appeals are for when we have made a mistake, or there has been a significant change in the circumstances.
These are the only reasons a ban appeal would be accepted. Appeals for "apologies" or just admitting you did wrong will be instantly denied.

In Game Name: BoarsSin

Length of Ban: 7 days

Nature of ban(ie, mine craft temp banned or TS3 perm ban) : Mine craft temp ban

Staff who banned you : Killah121

Staff who dealt with you : Killah121

Staff who have warned you previously : I have been warned by Xeom, goodchum, and killah. (but not for anything of this sort)

Reason for ban on record : Nuisance/history/should know better

Why do you think you were banned?(what you think the admins thought) : I was most likely banned because Killah did not believe I was complimenting him when I called him a ninja nigger. He most likely took it seriously and decided I was intentionally being racist.

Why what is your explanation of this reason? I stated in chat (after killah had arrested me and my friend for like the god knows how many time) that killah was a "fucking ninja nigger" or an "asian nigger" (Not sure which) because he is extremely fucking fast and you legit never see him coming. I actually explained this as I said it in order to NOT offend him, but I guess he misunderstood it or did not see my explanation. After having seen a large multitude of players calling each other niggers/niggas in chat and many staff calling each other that in /pc as jokes, I safely assumed it would be fine to do so if other were not punished for that.

Why should we unban you? I believe you should unban me, because there are alternatives to a 7 day ban from the server that would work more effectively in order to prevent me from offending others/speaking out of terms in chat. A seven day ban for one racial slur is, in my opinion, a mistake and should be corrected. I have only been muted one time for a period of 20 minutes, and I have never been kicked or banned before. The punishment for hacking is less than the punishment that was given to me for saying (as an obvious joke) that he was a nigger. Yes, this was a racial slur, however, countless players joke like this constantly and are not punished anything like this. I have never been warned for something such as a racial slur in chat, in fact, I have only been warned 3 times, and muted for simple things such as argumentation and an accidental flood (posting a sentence broken into a 4 lines).
I have not once used a racial slur in public chat before, nor ever intentionally offended anyone in this way.

What measures will you take to prevent this from happening again? I would like to propose a change in my punishment that will ensure that I will not make this same mistake or any form of harassment, nusiance, etc in chat again. I would like to ask if my punishment could be reverted to the 7day mute it was originally, or to a one month mute.
I believe both of these are alternatives that would work just as well as a kick, in fact, being on the server and not being able to speak would be more of a reminder of why not to say racial slurs in chat. It would hinder every part of the ways I make money, therefore, influencing how (in the future when I would get unmuted) I type and converse in public chats.

How can we trust you again? You can trust me because of two reasons: One, I am 100% addicted to drugMC and I literally play 13 ish hours a day and I will not do anything to fuck that up. I will not risk doing anything like this again.
Two, I have learned my lesson after being muted for 7days from killah. That mute is extremely harmful to my ability to make money, do trades, sell at shops, and haggle deals from other players. That alone is extremely harsh. This is more than enough to make sure that I will not make this same mistake again.

What else would you like to say to the admins who will review this case? I would like for you to please not just see this and instantly deny it, please consider what I have said and that I have not been muted or had anything previously wrong in this form of manner. I also would like for you to consider that a mute for a week/a month would be an alternative of better option for my punishment. Thank you.

You came in TeamSpeak shortly after, saying that you knew you would be punished before you said it, yet you still said it. You have a long history of mutes and warnings, we won't punish you lightly when your behaviour is like that.

Dakotaa said:

You came in TeamSpeak shortly after, saying that you knew you would be punished before you said it, yet you still said it. You have a long history of mutes and warnings, we won't punish you lightly when your behavior is like that.

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I am completely aware that the punishment will not be light, however, a ban from ts for saying "nigger" In chat in game, along with a 1 week long ban, and a 1 week long mute, it much higher above the normal punishment for this. I did not even consider that anything like that form of joking would result in the form of a ban, especially not a 7 day ban. I was under the impression (since this is how it usually is handled) that I would be given a warning for racial slurs in chat. That is how every other player has been warned/punished in the past. Given that I have more than my fair share of mutes, I agree that I should be punished with more than just a warn or a PM telling me off, I've been a complete dick in chat. However, I learned my lesson when several of my friends stopped talking to me and I proceeded to apologize to everyone I could yesterday and cut myself off from situations where I would get into arguments (including resigning from cop).
When I said I "Knew I would be punished" I knew that what I said was probably going to cause me to be warned. A 7 day ban is nothing compared to what anyone else has been punished with. In fact, this is the first time I even used the word nigger/nigga as a description of another player. In /pc I have seen a multitude of moderators and helpers use this as an insult, I have seen helpers say it in chat, and a numerous number of players saying it as jokes to each other in chat throughout the entirety of the day. Given that I am somewhat new to the server and saw a multitude of staff members saying extremely similar sayings, I guess I just assumed that I would be ok to do the same to a staff member who regularly saw it in /pc...

I still stand by that I my punishment is completely different and much harsher than the way it was dealt with in the past. I have seen multiple histories and nobody that I can find has ever been banned for 7 days for a single occasion of a racial slur...

Regardless of other players punishments for using racial slurs, I will continue to bring up the option that I should be muted, not banned.

hacked client auto spam 2+2 July 27, 2018, 21:09 July 30, 2018, 21:09 *

Hacked Client July 27, 2018, 16:51 July 30, 2018, 16:51

The above two lines are examples of players from today that were banned for hacking (which is much more serious and usually punished much more harshly than racial slurs).
They will be unbanned after three days.
I however, am currently being punished in three ways, and all of which more extreme than their punishments.
1. I am banned from TS.
2. I am banned in game for a week.
3. I am muted in game for a week.
All three of these hinder my experience and abilities to make money, contribute to my faction, help my friends, and to haggle for decent trades/shop deals.
I understand that comparing myself to these two random people who were banned for hacking is probably not going to change anything, but following the logic of those punishments and many others before them, I should certainly not be banned. This is why I am asking in order to have my ban revoked, and replaced with a mute.

You don't seem to understand that your history has an affect on the length of your punishment. Almost the whole staff team has warned and/or muted you, you should know better. Obviously someone with no history would get a much lighter punishment for doing what you did, but you have a large history and we dealt with you accordingly.

Dakotaa said:

You don't seem to understand that your history has an affect on the length of your punishment. Almost the whole staff team has warned and/or muted you, you should know better. Obviously someone with no history would get a much lighter punishment for doing what you did, but you have a large history and we dealt with you accordingly.

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I do understand that my history has an affect on the length of the punishment, which is why it should be turned into a week, month, or perm mute. Not a ban from the server. It was a chat offense, and something that players do constantly without being warned for. I am the first person to have been warned for saying this form of thing in quite some time, even though players have been sayings similar things constantly in front of other staff and not been warned/muted.
I was last muted for 20 minutes.
Why would my next punishment be raised to a 7 day ban?
It would be a much better option to either mute for a period of time, especially since this was my first offense regarding any form of racial slurs.

Recent Punishments for mr_macandcheese
kuuy123
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Racism 2nd offense July 24, 2018, 08:14 July 24, 2018, 08:29 (Expired) *
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racism, flooding, and caps July 24, 2018, 08:09 July 24, 2018, 08:14 (Expired) *
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This is the most recent punishment for any form of racism. I can pull up in chat logs an extremely large number of players who constantly say things far worse with the word "nigger".
I was not even given a slight chance with this and it wasn't even intentional racism. It was literally a compliment to killah and it was explained within the same sentences that it was stated.
Other players specifically tell people to burn themselves for being a jew.
I have seen a player yesterday, and there are a few staff who could most likely vouch for this (I believe kuuy or Tim was definitely there) and a player was speaking in Afrikan in chat. I asked him to not and just pm someone about his issue. Multiple players in chat proceeded to start laughing at him after one person called him a slave and told him to stfu.
These players were clearly not muted, or even warned with anything more than a chat message saying they "went to far". If needed, I would be glad to provide chat logs of this incidence and a multitude of separate occasions of similar things happening which would logically lead a player to believe jokingly complimenting someone using the term nigger would not result in a 7 day ban.
As I have said before, I don't disagree that my punishment should be harsher than my previous, however, as my last punishment was a 20 minute mute, this punishment should not result in a ban, and it should be reverted to the 7 day mute it originally was, or extended into a month/perm mute if you feel that necessary.

BoarsSin said:

I do understand that my history has an affect on the length of the punishment, which is why it should be turned into a week, month, or perm mute. Not a ban from the server. It was a chat offense, and something that players do constantly without being warned for. I am the first person to have been warned for saying this form of thing in quite some time, even though players have been sayings similar things constantly in front of other staff and not been warned/muted.
I was last muted for 20 minutes.
Why would my next punishment be raised to a 7 day ban?
It would be a much better option to either mute for a period of time, especially since this was my first offense regarding any form of racial slurs.

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Alright, you're unbanned and muted permanently.

I muted boar once so I think I can comment here. I honestly think a permanent mute (~9 Months) is a little harsh, Boar used the chat in a non-racist or flooding fashion frequently. I think he should probably be muted for a month or two, If I was him, I'd definitely take a 1 week ban over a 9 month mute.

Xeoum said:

I muted boar once so I think I can comment here. I honestly think a permanent mute (~9 Months) is a little harsh, Boar used the chat in a non-racist or flooding fashion frequently. I think he should probably be muted for a month or two, If I was him, I'd definitely take a 1 week ban over a 9 month mute.

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I would never take a week ban over a perm mute. I am the one who offered that proposition, and I am lucky that dakotaa accepted it. I agree that it should be a one or two month mute, however, not being to play in game when I am leaving for college in two weeks is a much worse punishment. I don't have much time left to spend with some of the people I've been playing with for several years. My activity is going to drop from around 13 ish hours a day to probably like 4 or 5 hours a week, if that. I would rather be able to spend time with them for this following week and not be able to speak in chat for 9 month, then lose the next week of play time.