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BoarsSin

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Member Name BoarsSin

Ban appeals are for when we have made a mistake, or there has been a significant change in the circumstances.
These are the only reasons a ban appeal would be accepted. Appeals for "apologies" or just admitting you did wrong will be instantly denied.


In Game Name: FearTheDoggos

Length of Ban: Mute: Perm.

Nature of ban(ie, mine craft temp banned or TS3 perm ban) : Mine craft perm mute

Staff who banned you : Killah121/Dakotaa

Staff who dealt with you : Killah121/Dakotaa

Staff who have warned you previously : Goodchum, witch, Killah121, Xeom

Reason for ban on record : Nuisance in chat/should know better.

Why do you think you were banned?(what you think the admins thought) : I understand that I was muted permanently because I was being an wise-ass in chat incessantly, they most likely just had enough of my arguments, and saw my comment towards killah and misunderstood what I said as a major racial insult. This caused me to be muted.

Why what is your explanation of this reason? I would say that my explanation can only consist of that I did not appreciate the full severity of my actions, my punishment, or the results of my actions. However, I have certainly learned my lesson after the amount of time I have been online, but unable to speak to others.

Why should we unban you? I believe that I have proven I am not toxic, nor that I have any intent on remaining rude in chat. I think I should be given another chance to speak in the public chat. Even though I had been argumentative over rulings, I was never toxic, and I constantly helped out players in chat. One of my warnings even came from my helping new players out. At the time I was the only player online who could speak the same language as a new player, and I accidentally ./r instead of /r and my response to him went into public chat.
Given that I have a poor history, I still believe that I can prove myself. I would like to ask that you give me another chance.

What measures will you take to prevent this from happening again? I will not speak with the possibility of insulting anyone in chat. This was never my intent, however, with the situation with killah I learned I should be much more careful when it comes to situations such as these.

How can we trust you again? I have learned my lesson from being banned from the ts for a week, and being muted for the last many days.

What else would you like to say to the admins who will review this case? Yes, I would like to state that I am not a rude or mean person. I have warns accumulated on my history solely due to the fact that I have trouble finishing/stopping when I need to stop. I have worked on this a lot, and if needed, there are many people in discord calls, my faction, and even throughout the server who will back up that I have changed a lot and have seriously been trying to become much better in regards to argumentation. Even before my perm mute, I had already improved drastically from when I had been arguing pointless things.
Thanks for reading this, I hope you consider what I said.
 

Ace42986

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I have deleted forums posts that u have made that were not needed. That is not proving you are not toxic to us that's just proving we were right with your punishment.
 

BoarsSin

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There was a single forums post that I created in regards to a player who was in a call with me and has been harassing my little brother who has autism. I do not believe that he should be allowed back onto the server, and a large portion of the player base agrees with me that he should not be allowed back onto the server after having hacked blatantly in the past, and flaming people constantly.
Within my forums post, I did not flame him one time, I did not use any form of obscenity, I did not start an argument, I simply stated something that a vast majority agreed with.
There are moderators in game who actually flame players. I have not flamed anyone.
There are players in game who constantly use the word "nigger" and are never punished.
Nothing within my forums post was in a flaming form or anything.
BlueMushies used a sexualized comment towards (edit- not you, noodles) and I simply said it made me want to vomit.
 
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BoarsSin

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Just to add onto that situation ^ he was literally just temp banned for the millionth time, this time for "Lying about staff" repeatedly.
 

Ace42986

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So that player has nothing to do with your ban. the only thing i mentioned that is connected to your ban was the toxic side on the comment u left on the player report, that u should have never left in the first place.
 
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BoarsSin

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So that player has nothing to do with your ban. the only thing i mentioned that is connected to your ban was the toxic side on the comment u left on the player report, that u should have never left in the first place.
I am not banned, nor have I ever been punished for anything even remotely related to "toxicity". I apologize, but I am not sure where this is coming from.
 

NoodlyApendage

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plus multiple arguments about the cop's and horses thing and spamming your shop thing
 

BoarsSin

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The bottom two are among NUMEROUS messages from the entire server that were posted after GKID was repeatedly joining the server on alts and claiming he was the shit and the best mod or whatever.
The message from "316 hours ago" was me calling goodchum toxic after he called kuuy (a friend of mine and a helper) a fucking retard.
Yes, I said one sentence in 5 lines. I apologize again, but that is not being toxic in any way shape or form. I have improved greatly in this aspect of chat and if you check my recent history after being muted and throughout my /pc (message) it will stand by my point that I have changed. I have legitimately worked hard to condense all my messages to the proper amount, to not argue, especially over stupid shit, and if you check my messages in general before the mute you will see that it was just my style of typing. I am used to typing my sentences in multiple lines, its just how I have typed on MC for years. It was a huge change for it not to be allowed on here.
The spanish stuff (the first one I literally don't have ANY idea what the context of that was in or why the fuck I even said that) the second was my asking someone if they spoke spanish because they were having issues communicating in english and I had seen them state something in Portuguese previously asking about some rulings in the game. I asked if they spoke spanish because if they did, I would be able to help them with their issues, similarly to the way I do when players only speak German. In fact I received a warning for accidentally ./r whilst explaining how to get to the drug dealers to a player who did not speak english.
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Going through each of these in order:
1. This was regarding a joke between any player who coinflips and has had the unfortunate experience of coinflipping with KatiKitt3n is a part of. It was a joke essentially saying that he paid off or sucked off or whatever people would like to call bribing spalw in order to rig all his coinflips.
2. This was a joke after tim and I were both accused of tracering.
3. Was after I was falsely reported by a staff member (no clue who) to dakotaa and was demoted from my cop position. Those messages were all in /pc. While I was private messaging with staff members and dakotaa I was duly respectful to them, and even if you look through the logs completely you will see that I did not even complain or argue with any of it at all I just accepted what happened and explained my point of view, similarly to when dakotaa had to take my only mount/t3 horse away.
4. I am on good terms with vzl and he were just fooling around in chat. The line beneath it "BEAT THAT NIGGER" was when me and InfamousAge were messing around with our shop prices for t1 keys. It was 100% a joke and not meant in any form of toxic way. We were just raising the price players could sell to us at by ridiculous amounts. I think when I said this I had gone up to 12k per key, after which infamous proceeded to raise his to 20k per t1 key.
5. I had just been frisked with a large inventory of drugs and _Dest and kid were making jokes about raping me in prison and were shifting on me while one of them was whacking me with a stick through the prison bars.
The caps comments afterwards were obviously in a joking manner and making fun of myself, not anyone else....
6. Its in quotation marks. Someone on the server said "all fags are fags" so I put it in quotations and was like ok. I mean like the statement "all fags are fags" is just I don't even know lmao its honestly just so stupid to state I didn't understand why anyone would bother stating something like that....
 

Spalw

Retired Staff
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We agreed that we would lift your ban in exchange for a permanent mute, as per your suggestion.
 

BoarsSin

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We agreed that we would lift your ban in exchange for a permanent mute, as per your suggestion.
I completely understand this, however, I was told by the moderator who did it originally that I should appeal it again as it was an extreme punishment even without the ban.
Here is a vast multitude of examples of players saying a ridiculous amount worse and of much higher severity and either not being punished, or being warned.
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Ok. Temp muted for 30 minutes WITH a previous history? After speaking about how great hitlers deeds were?

2. Here we have craig talking about how much he hates niggers and another person saying he "cooks them up like fried chicken".
No warnings or mutes were dealt
 

BoarsSin

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Someone calling killah a nigger repeatedly and not even being warned. (I will get a different screenshot that provides more times of him calling him a nigger if needed)
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BoarsSin

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Saying "Killah nigga" is very, very different from "calling Killah a nigger".
I was not aware of that. I just assumed calling him a nigger or a nigga was the same thing. Because I was in the call with robot and when he did this and he proceeded to call killah a nigger/nigga several times after he was frisked by killah.
 

Spalw

Retired Staff
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I am denying your appeal for now, however - it will be discussed further with other staff.
The actions of others do not excuse your own.

You cherry picking examples of racism etc in chat is ridiculous. There is no context what so ever, regarding staff online, previous conversation etc.
We are very lenient with what we allow in our chat, for good reason - Dakota and I always hated servers that blocked certain words, or banned you for using specific words regardless of context and we molded our chat rules around what we would like to play with personally, but not specifically to allow what we think is appropriate. We allow people to say things that we don't agree with, within reason. We try our best to punish those who are consistently toxic and target specific people, however - this is incredibly difficult and it's almost impossible to be consistent with punishments as each situation and player is entirely different.

I agree that a discussion needs to be had within the staff team about how we can better and more consistently enforce our chat rules, however - I'm not entirely certain that all players deserve the same length of mutes (for example) for the exact same message. It's also important to remember that there aren't always staff members moderating chat, even if they are online and active.
 

Spalw

Retired Staff
Retired Staff
Update :
Your mute has been lifted, however - if there are any issues regarding ignoring staff, toxicity etc. a permanent ban will be issued.
If you do not agree with a specific staff's actions etc, first do what they say and subsequently report it on the forums.
 
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