Denied Ban Appeal - Garrett

Member Name Garrett

Ban appeals are for when we have made a mistake, or there has been a significant change in the circumstances.
These are the only reasons a ban appeal would be accepted. Appeals for "apologies" or just admitting you did wrong will be instantly denied.

In Game Name: parcheesi15

Length of Ban: 24 Hours

Nature of ban(ie, mine craft temp banned or TS3 perm ban) : Storing Items in Player Shops

Staff who banned you : Killah121

Staff who dealt with you : Wasn't talked to

Staff who have warned you previously : Never warned

Reason for ban on record : Storing Items in a player shop

Why do you think you were banned?(what you think the admins thought) : Killah121 banned me for having items in my player shop that were in a chest without a sign and I'm assuming he thought I was storing items there for safe keeping?

Why what is your explanation of this reason? I have 2 chests with out a sign. The one chest I'm trying to transition into an enchantment buying and selling chest but I haven't gotten it completely figured out so there is no sign and the other chest has a bunch of random shit that I probably shouldn't have had in the shop.

Why should we unban you? There are multiple reasons I should be unbanned. I clearly did not know that it was against the rules to have chests in my player shop without sell or buy signs on them so that one is on me for not knowing all of the shop rules, however, I have had the chest there for almost 2 weeks now trying to figure out how I'm going to make it work and it hasn't been a problem. The next reason would be because clearly the items in my chests are of little to no value. If I was using my player chest as a vault, it wouldn't have random items shoved in chests for safe keeping. Furthermore, I have never been warned about this rule or seen anyone being warned about this offense. Killah121 gave me no warning and never said anything to hint to me that I shouldn't have chest items and he did not give me a chance to immediately remove all items which I would have gladly done.

What measures will you take to prevent this from happening again? I guess I won't be storing any future shop items in my shop.

How can we trust you again? I don't believe this is an offense that breaks any trust.

What else would you like to say to the admins who will review this case? I'm a little angry that I was given no warning and I wasn't given the opportunity to immediately remove my items from the shop. I was not afk and I was clearly unaware of the rule. I understand that it is only a 24 hour ban but being a college student with an almost full time job, I enjoy the playing time that I can get and it upsets me when it is interrupted for a small rule violation that could have been immediately resolved.

I would also like to note that I do not want this offense showing up on my /history because it puts a blemish on my record for something I was completely oblivious to. This is another reason I created a ban appeal for a 24 hour ban.

Look at what i found just running past the player shops


https://gyazo.com/c8443a62912449942f230e39e585687f

Appeal denied.

I'd like this it be handled by a different staff member than the original one who banned me. Like I said before, I did not know the rules and that is on me, but the Player Shop rules do not say that players will be banned for any offenses and the majority of the items are not for personal use, and the items that you could consider personal use are little to no value which would show that I am not trying to store items in my player shop.

Hi here is a second staff opinion, Ignorance of the rules is not a defense as they are clearly stated on a very easy to see board at the front of the shops. Killah's ban on you is justified and using the defense "I Didn't Know The Rules" isn't valid as previously stated. As well, its only 24 hours see you tomorrow

you had just under 2 full dubs of items that you were not selling. that is what chest shop storage is. im pretty sure none of are rules say what the punishment is

But is there no warning to stop such a small offense from resulting in a ban? I would have gladly thrown a buy sign up on the one chest and emptied the other chest if Killah would have only warned me and told me I was going to be banned for the items. It was clear I was unaware of the rule, that really does not harm anyone in my situation, and I was online and able to remove the items. I understand ignorance is not an excuse, but why is the immediate action a 24 hour ban instead of even a 5 minute warning?

If there is no rules saying what the punishment is, why am I not able to simply receive a warning to remove my items immediately or else it will result in a ban? I don't see why Killah's first response was to ban me instead of just ask me to remove the items.

I have seen multiple people warned for not having their shops stocked and not having shop sell or buy signs on their chests and I believe admins give a 24 hour grace period before the shop is removed from the player? I may be wrong about the punishment but it is the third rule on the Player Shop Rules and no one is every banned for it.

High Staff have made their decision on this appeal and i'm locking this thread see you tomorrow

Using a shop for storage and not having a shop stocked are not the same thing.

Preventing shop storage is one of the most fundamental rules of player shops as they prevent them being abused to prevent stuff being lost in a raid or being able to be stolen for any other reason.

Not having a shop stocked warrants a warning because it is often beyond the control of the player when the shop is out of stock, as they can only stock a certain amount of items and player can buy as many as they want.

Your response to this ban is absolutely pathetic and wasted staff's time.