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An issue with pumpkin prices vs pumpkin seed prices

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p0six

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For this suggestion, I make the following assumptions:
1. Raw pumpkins are meant to be a viable drug to sell when one has an excess of pumpkins for sale
2. Raw pumpkins' prices should be balanced for players who don't sell with horses. (Note that if I were to assume that all players run drugs with horses, it would result in a higher raw pumpkin price recommendation, so I'm weakening my argument with this assumption)
3. A player running pumpkins to be converted will sell 33 stacks of pumpkins at a time, as opposed to 35. This speeds up the conversion process.

I calculated that to run an inventory of pumpkins, teleport to home and spawn, and convert, it would take a horseless player an average of:

Trial 1: 2 minutes 6 second
Trial 2: 1 minute 59 seconds

~ 2 minutes 2 seconds full process

I calculated that to run an inventory of pumpkins and make 2 teleports without converting, it would take a horseless player an average of:

52 seconds
54 seconds

~ 58 seconds no conversion

No Conversion: 1 sell / 58 seconds
Conversion: 1 sell / 122 seconds
ratio of speeds: 2.1* as fast to sell without conversion

If we are to assume that there is an excess of pumpkins for the player selling, and that he SHOULD make more money selling raw pumpkins if such a condition is met, then he should make 1 / 2.1* as much money as a player limited by quantity of pumpkins, or around:

48% as much.

Currently, one 33 stack inventory of pumpkins converted sells for $41395 whereas an unconverted inventory sells for $11200 (Booster / seller rates not accounted for because they don't matter in this calculation).
current ratio of money made No Conversion:Conversion is .271 or 27.1%

Because the current ratio of prices for converting and not converting has been proven to ALWAYS favor converting, it would make sense that the prices for raw pumpkins be changed to match some number greater than the proposed ratio.

If we don't want to change the price of converted seeds, and $4.9 is fixed, we can calculate the new lower bound for raw pumpkins by multiplying the desired ratio of .48 * (4.9$ / pumpkin seed * 4 seeds / raw pumpkin) = $9.4 / raw pumpkin

With this calculation, we determine that the profit from raw pumpkins should be made greater than $9.4.

I would suggest that some number like $10-12 be the new price to reward people for having farmed to the point where they have an excess of pumpkins.

tl;dr I think raw pumpkins should cost around 10-12$
 
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Dakotaa

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Raw pumpkins are meant to be a viable drug to sell when one has an excess of pumpkins for sale
Which is not true. As I already told you when you were talking about this in teamspeak, crafting is the main effort with pumpkins, so we have no intention to make the selling price of raw pumpkins worthwhile.
 

p0six

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Which is not true. As I already told you when you were talking about this in teamspeak, crafting is the main effort with pumpkins, so we have no intention to make the selling price of raw pumpkins worthwhile.
My issue with this is that there is currently not a feature of selling raw pumpkins. It is always incorrect to sell raw pumpkins, so selling them really isn't even a feature. The drug might as well not exist on /drugs. I figured that there was some purpose to them being there, but currently they only exist as a trap for bad players.
 

Dakotaa

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My issue with this is that there is currently not a feature of selling raw pumpkins. It is always incorrect to sell raw pumpkins, so selling them really isn't even a feature. The drug might as well not exist on /drugs. I figured that there was some purpose to them being there, but currently they only exist as a trap for bad players.
If there's a price that makes them valuable and a possibility to sell them, then there is a "feature" to sell them. It may not be wise to do so, but people asked for it so we gave it to them at a price that we feel is fair for the relatively low effort of farming pumpkins without having to craft them into seeds.
 
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