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p0six

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Suppose it wasn't any issue unless you won right?

I love feedback for this event as it'll help the next one run smoother and overall a better experience for players despite this the fact you didn't raise that you felt at all disadvantaged in the 6 days before the event nor did you complain about the pots in any of the events you won but the second you lost you claim you're at a disadvantage comes across very poor taste and questions if its feedback to improve the event or improve your chances of winning.
Dude, I didn’t bring it up in my original post because it wasn’t a complaint I had. I was just pointing out that lurnn’s response to something I said outside of my suggestion was bad. Nowhere here was I saying “I feel disadvantaged blah blah blah” because it’s something that’s only relevant to me. It’s kind of disconcerting that when I’m just pointing out as a small part of my response to lurnn that he had a detail off, that you’ve taken it as me trying to say the results of the tournament are invalid and that it was unfair.

furthermore: if you reply that I’ve continued talking about it and therefore cannot only see it as a small detail, then you’re saying I have no choice other than to not respond to lurnn or spalw when they make an insult to me that I think is based on a flawed premise. Lurnn’s entire response was antagonistic in nature and he’s received no backlash. If I don’t respond to it, then it looks like a concession.

it’s just overall offputting that I’m trying to be objective, lurnn essentially says I’m only pushing suggestions for self-benefit even though I’ve had multiple people who aren’t me come to agree, and then I get dogpiled for defending my motivations. At this point, it literally doesn’t matter whether I want to win or not, your job as a member of the staff team is to determine whether you think I have presented good ideas.
 
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InFamousAge

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Dude, I didn’t bring it up in my original post because it wasn’t a complaint I had. I was just pointing out that lurnn’s response to something I said outside of my suggestion was bad. Nowhere here was I saying “I feel disadvantaged blah blah blah” because it’s something that’s only relevant to me. It’s kind of disconcerting that when I’m just pointing out as a small part of my response to lurnn that he had a detail off, that you’ve taken it as me trying to say the results of the tournament are invalid and that it was unfair.

furthermore: if you reply that I’ve continued talking about it and therefore cannot only see it as a small detail, then you’re saying I have no choice other than to not respond to lurnn or spalw when they make an insult to me that I think is based on a flawed premise. Lurnn’s entire response was antagonistic in nature and he’s received no backlash. If I don’t respond to it, then it looks like a concession.

I have no issue with you saying you would like to see items changed or altered as that helps us find a solid middle ground of what players are happy with for PVP. But you saying you're at a disadvantage regarding what Lurnn said was misplaced, if you're talking about personal skill with different sets that had no place in what Lurnn was saying or what he meant , you having no disadvantage regarding Regens as nobody else had them is what he meant. He didn't have a detail off in what he was saying you just decided to take it as something else.
 

p0six

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I have no issue with you saying you would like to see items changed or altered as that helps us find a solid middle ground of what players are happy with for PVP. But you saying you're at a disadvantage regarding what Lurnn said was misplaced, if you're talking about personal skill with different sets that had no place in what Lurnn was saying or what he meant , you having no disadvantage regarding Regens as nobody else had them is what he meant. He didn't have a detail off in what he was saying you just decided to take it as something else.
ok. If I say I’m at a disadvantage and lurnn says I’m not, and then I say I am and somehow I’m not talking about the same thing he is, then lurnn is the one who’s fucked up.
 

Spalw

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ok. If I say I’m at a disadvantage and lurnn says I’m not, and then I say I am and somehow I’m not talking about the same thing he is, then lurnn is the one who’s fucked up.
It honestly feels like you don’t understand half of the words you use.
 

Spalw

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lurnn doesn’t get to pick what he’s arguing if he’s arguing that I’m not disadvantaged after I claim I was. If one of us has been arguing the wrong thing, then it’s his fault.

"The person I'm responding to, doesn't get to decide what they're saying"
Sorry, but fucking what?

Lurnn was arguing, that in the context of the Tournament, you were not at a disadvantage.
You replied that he was "Objectively wrong".

My point.
Was that it is not fair, for you to use such strong and condescending language, which is actually objectively fucking wrong because you know that Lurnn won't actually call you out on it.

The tone you have taken since this tournament ended is just pathetic.
It's shit like this that makes us not want to run it again in the future.

You lost, because someone played better than you.
It has, absolutely nothing to do with the tournament or how it was run.
 
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p0six

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"The person I'm responding to, doesn't get to decide what they're saying"
Sorry, but fucking what?

Lurnn was arguing, that in the context of the Tournament, you were not at a disadvantage.
You replied that he was "Objectively wrong".

My point.
Was that it is not fair, for you to use such strong and condescending language, which is actually objectively fucking wrong because you know that Lurnn won't actually call you out on it.

The tone you have taken since this tournament ended is just pathetic.
It's shit like this that makes us not want to run it again in the future.

You lost, because someone played better than you.
It has, absolutely nothing to do with the tournament or how it was run.
Person A: I think dogs are bad because they poop
Person B: I disagree. Just because dogs poop doesn't mean they're bad (he's saying they're not bad for the candy store)
Person A: No, I think that because dogs can mess up my house they are bad.
Person B: bro, that's not even what I was talking about

In this scenario, person B has misconstrued person A's argument, and person A further misconstrues person B's argument under the premise that his original argument was understood.

In parallel, I joked to lurnn that because I am bad at pvping without regen, that I was disadvantaged. I'm saying that if there were regens I'd do better. Lurnn then responds that I'm in fact not at a disadvantage because everybody has an equal kit. When I respond saying that he's objectively wrong, I'm assuming that he's talking about what I was initially talking about. Because I made the initial claim, Lurnn doesn't get to decide what he argues against. If I end up not understanding what Lurnn is arguing about, it's because he's misunderstood my initial argument.

Edit: OK. I want to REFRAME why I am being so defensive here. I am a known toxic player that is not afraid to tell people to kill themselves or fuck off or call people retarded. Given this, if you see me on the forums using at most 1 cuss word, and going out of my way to be non-inflammatory, and then you tell me that I'm behaving OBJECTIVELY MORALLY WRONG ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? and you imply that I'm TAKING ADVANTAGE OF LURNN'S NICENESS TO INSULT HIM ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? it is really hard for me to not get mad. Please do not see the paragraphs I type that I go out of my way to format correctly and make considerate towards others while still showcasing disagreement, as me being toxic.
 
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Spalw

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and then you tell me that I'm behaving OBJECTIVELY MORALLY WRONG ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

...

Also, it is objectively wrong to say I wasn’t at a disadvantage
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Literally what happend -
Person A: I think the tournament was fair
Person B:: You're OBJECTIVELY WRONG
 
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Spalw

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tfw trying to cling to relevance on a server you got banned from c:
still votes on new members for a faction on a server he can't play xd
 
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