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Discussion in 'Rules' started by Spalw, Apr 23, 2017.
what about the replay mod?
LabyMod its like 5zig (included things are OptiFine, Direction HUD, ItemPhysics, WorldEditCUI, Settings Profile Mod, GommeHDnet, BetterHat, Keystrokes v3, Damage Indicator, More Particles)
Is it ok?
Sounds all right, but dont use the more particles as i believe thats against the rules
only i can see particles and its graphical effect like u see ur crits easier
EDIT: i see what u mean no it doesn't let u see more potion particles only crit ones
I believe toggle sneak is not allowed
Why is that not allowed as well as toggle sprint when I can just tape down my shift/Ctrl key for the same outcome?
Just seems like extra work and it’s not like staff can tell the difference..
Because it's a feature of many hack clients, we're not going to go through the effort to find out whether it is or not when a player is using it.
Okay, but the only way you would know if someone wasn’t taping their key down was if you screenshared them and at that point you would know if they were using a hacked client or not with no effort required.
Auto mine is a feature of hacked clients, am I gonna get banned for taping down my left click on a cobblestone gen because you don’t want to go through the effort to see whether I’m cheating or not?
There's a difference between holding down your left click button and the sneak feature in hacked clients. It can be hard to tell if a player is just sneaking normally, or using a client to affect their speed while sneaking. Many of our staff do not have the experience to make the judgement in situations like this.
Okay, then let me give you an example
You find someone sitting in their base afk, but they are crouching in a box or something. You ban them for “toggle sneak” I’d figure since you say it’s not allowed. They appeal, and say they had something like a rock on top of their crouch key to hold it down while they were AFK. You accept their appeal (as I’ve seen in the past) and that’s that.
If someone’s toggle sneaking on a hacked client, they are bypassing the speed crouching gives you (full on sprint speed but name can’t be seen) which is super obvious whether or not they are they are cheating.
A regular toggle sneak, doesn’t bypass any speed crouching gives you, and thus they aren’t doing something noticeable to make you ban them anyways. If you banned them, they could literally just say they had a rock on their crouch key and you unban them like usual, so theirs no point in keeping it not allowed
If I crouch all the way to the drug dealer, I highly doubt the staff will have a problem telling if I’m pressing a crouch key or if I’m straight up running while crouched to the drug dealer through hacked clients
Yes, obviously mods that simulate holding down a button that you could do without a mod are allowed. Sneak mods that allow you to sneak while chatting, opening the pause menu, or doing something you wouldn't be able to do while sneaking are not allowed.
That’s how any toggle sprint/sneak I’ve ever downloaded works.
You kinda went from "they are not allowed" to "they are allowed under these circumstances"
I assumed by "toggle sneak" that they meant the sneak I described, where they can sneak while chatting, etc. That's where the "toggle" part comes in.
I could understand where you could see that it would be similar to a client, I was just wondering if it was allowed or not. I understand if it's not...But what if we were to use the sprint part of it? It would be like having a heavy object or tapping down the sprint key.
As long as it's the same as holding down the key - it does not keep you sneaking while you are in chat or the menus - it is fine.
I'm wondering if I can use the FAIR PLAY version of the Better PVP mod.
This mod gives you some HUD changes so it shows your armor enchants and status as well as potion effects and such.
It also gives you a minimap which DOES NOT show players or caves on the fair play version.
Additionally it provides better sprint (pressing one button to sprint) and toggle sneak which doesn't allow you to sprint while sneaking or sneak while in chat or esc.
Also it shows mob health bars.
This mod is generally just an ease of use mod with good HUD options, and is completely within the rules.
That should be fine.
What minimap is this referring to? Is Xaero's Minimap (Fair Play edition) okay? It also says Schematica but I'm not sure how to get it without printers.
Xaero's Minimap is fine, as long as it doesn't have cave finder or players turned on. Schematica automatically comes with printer, but it's very easily disabled in the in-game options in the same interface where you move around schematics (bottom-left).